You did the right thing by explaining it. How do we address this by reporting to police, local authority, etc? We can hardly identify most of them, let alone the tourists
In different issue, Wong why don’t we (you ) organise a little gathering of photographers (Malaysia) film or digital not necessarily professional ones only, unless you want it so
Thanks for the clarification Robin. And good to hear it's NOT as my Malaysia Friends used to say: "Mr. NoFun strikes again!". Years ago I was arrested in Portland Oregon for unlicensed photography when I photographed police strip-searching a man across a street. A law did exist that blurred the line between tourist snapshots and commercial activity. Even though that law was likely unconstitutional in America, the photographs were strictly personal, as I has a video-photography business and worked for a large media network, and I likely could have been charged and convicted. Also because the man they strip searched was naked they threatened to charge me with a much more serious crime unless I deleted the images and accepted a trespass from the entire city.
What I learned from that is that even in countries Like the U.S. or Malaysia that have strong protections of personal liberty. Cities can pass Ordinances and rules that while themselves are unlawful, can result in a lot of trouble for innocent photographers.
robin are u an olympus ambassador? ever since they closed down that initiative in malaysia, i know very few olympus supporters, great to see this content
good, walking around klcc a few months ago I was really annoyed by those photo touts. not harassed in any way, but by just being everywhere and taking up every possible angle with all their gear
It’s typical news journalism to get traffic to their site. Too common now, these 3rd grade journalist make “sensational” news. Like “Biker are the cause of traffic jam” kind of news… because if they say “Cars are the cause of traffic jam” its doesn’t cause sensation.
Forget it, don’t remind these stupid journalist.. because they will keep doing it, just to get viewers. Only desperate people do this.
Privacy isn’t valued anymore. Everything has to be recorded and blasted online to gain followers. It sucks.
Street photographers rarely if ever get permission. Even if it’s technically legal doesnt make it moral. Im personally tired of people secretly photographing other people
Times Square in NY,Las Vegas and many places in Egypt could learn a thing or two from that. It’s horrible to go to a tourist spot and get harassed like that.
Heard that theres they are a syndicate lead by gangs, not sure if it is true, but really annoying around that area harrasing tourists damaging our nation's image and giving our local Street photographers bad name.
Even the star newspaper is using the wrong phrase on the paper. Street Photographers instead of Photo touts
Thank you Robin for pointing it out. Nice to meet you at Makan Buzz that day, we should shoot together someday, brother。
Wish these photo tout never happened here in Malaysia. I love doing Street photography especially in KL however, I always avoid KLCC in general due to these Photo tout make us look bad. I only wanted to document my everyday life of Malaysians je 😅😅
i knew good journalist. wherever they go whatever they found is almost immediately blocked from being publish. paper oil stocks, iran, europe oil crisis. all of that is blocked yet the news comes from the one involves in it in youtube. what a time to be alive.
Oh yes I did read that headline. Very bad journalism.
Nowadays journalists often creates headline that imbues unnecessary fear just to be viral.
Was in fact I was in a mall in KL (where you often find a lot of camera shops, but its Sunday, so many closed) where I'm aware we dont neccesarily can shoot inside malls, so I keep my camera inside bag, where I saw a lot of people carrying DSLRS on the neck lol.
I’m glad they are getting rid of those touts. They are absolute pests. The last time I was back home in Malaysia and wandering around the KLCC doing my street photography, these pests are harassing everyone, including photographers that have better gear than them. Glad the government is clamping down on this.
I am not even surprised why street photographers get the short end of the stick when these kinds of issues arise. We even still argue about what photography is even among ourselves. No wonder the media ran with it so easily 😅
Clicked immediately. Now relieved. Thanks Robin! Greetings from a fellow photographer who wants to move to Malaysia and wouldn´t do it if it really would be illegal now…
I think it's important for people to realize that especially when they travel to foreign countries, the laws may not be the same as their home country. For example, in the US, for the most part, street photography is legal, although there are some gray areas that could get you in trouble, such as photographing on private property, or invading someone's privacy (including shooting through store or restaurant windows from the outside). But for the most part, photos taken from a public location (ex. on a public street) are fair game. However this does not apply in all countries (perhaps such as N. Korea or Russia for example).
Why this guy is not an OM Ambassador just puzzles me, he loves the M43 system and OM /Olympus gear, great m43 product reviews, excellent photo shooting tips, techniques. Thanks for making such great content and I hope you continue using M43 system and making content for years to come. Keep up the good work, I salute you!
You did the right thing by explaining it. How do we address this by reporting to police, local authority, etc?
We can hardly identify most of them, let alone the tourists
In different issue, Wong why don’t we (you ) organise a little gathering of photographers (Malaysia) film or digital not necessarily professional ones only, unless you want it so
Thanx for clearing this up!🙏
Thanks for the clarification Robin. And good to hear it's NOT as my Malaysia Friends used to say: "Mr. NoFun strikes again!". Years ago I was arrested in Portland Oregon for unlicensed photography when I photographed police strip-searching a man across a street. A law did exist that blurred the line between tourist snapshots and commercial activity. Even though that law was likely unconstitutional in America, the photographs were strictly personal, as I has a video-photography business and worked for a large media network, and I likely could have been charged and convicted. Also because the man they strip searched was naked they threatened to charge me with a much more serious crime unless I deleted the images and accepted a trespass from the entire city.
What I learned from that is that even in countries Like the U.S. or Malaysia that have strong protections of personal liberty. Cities can pass Ordinances and rules that while themselves are unlawful, can result in a lot of trouble for innocent photographers.
Thank you for that clarification Robin.
Because these photographers were on the streets. That's why the government called them streets photographers 😂
robin are u an olympus ambassador? ever since they closed down that initiative in malaysia, i know very few olympus supporters, great to see this content
Difference between these two is like night and day!!
As beginners who just get camera any suggestions for prime lens which focal length good for street photography?
Thanks for clearing this up Robin. Hope to run in to you when I stroll the streets in KL when I visit it from PD, NS.
Yay! What? No? I hate those rude cruel people who points their camera at the others treating them like Zoo animals.
SCMP and FMT has tried this and they know the impact of misleading title.
Sloppy journalism at its best
For a photo tout, the decisive moment is when they get paid!
3:46. Because the media is ignorant and making the headline sound threatening to more people will get more clicks/sales.
yeah I was shocked when I saw the news article
good, walking around klcc a few months ago I was really annoyed by those photo touts. not harassed in any way, but by just being everywhere and taking up every possible angle with all their gear
I almost remove Malaysia on my travel list
They should have say "illegal paid on street photographers"!?
It’s typical news journalism to get traffic to their site. Too common now, these 3rd grade journalist make “sensational” news. Like “Biker are the cause of traffic jam” kind of news… because if they say “Cars are the cause of traffic jam” its doesn’t cause sensation.
Forget it, don’t remind these stupid journalist.. because they will keep doing it, just to get viewers. Only desperate people do this.
A picture of the entire Urban Street Narratives gang in a KL jail would have made a great keepsake!
Too bad! I wish it was illegal everywhere 😂
Privacy isn’t valued anymore. Everything has to be recorded and blasted online to gain followers. It sucks.
Street photographers rarely if ever get permission. Even if it’s technically legal doesnt make it moral.
Im personally tired of people secretly photographing other people
Times Square in NY,Las Vegas and many places in Egypt could learn a thing or two from that. It’s horrible to go to a tourist spot and get harassed like that.
Those photo touts are mostly foreigners too. Bro, kalau ada meetup mcm mana? teringin join
Hi Robin, How are you?
Heard that theres they are a syndicate lead by gangs, not sure if it is true, but really annoying around that area harrasing tourists damaging our nation's image and giving our local Street photographers bad name.
Even the star newspaper is using the wrong phrase on the paper. Street Photographers instead of Photo touts
Thank you Robin for pointing it out. Nice to meet you at Makan Buzz that day, we should shoot together someday, brother。
Jack.
This is a good message 😉
What camera are you holding? Is it Fuji XM5?
In short, photography touts shoot photos of people with places of interest in the background, with charges.
While a street photographer quietly documents the touts at work. 😂
That's what some of us do, before those CCTVs appear. 😆😆
Man I wish Malaysian news portals were more honest and less sensationalist
Wish these photo tout never happened here in Malaysia. I love doing Street photography especially in KL however, I always avoid KLCC in general due to these Photo tout make us look bad. I only wanted to document my everyday life of Malaysians je 😅😅
i knew good journalist. wherever they go whatever they found is almost immediately blocked from being publish. paper oil stocks, iran, europe oil crisis. all of that is blocked yet the news comes from the one involves in it in youtube. what a time to be alive.
Oh yes I did read that headline. Very bad journalism.
Nowadays journalists often creates headline that imbues unnecessary fear just to be viral.
Was in fact I was in a mall in KL (where you often find a lot of camera shops, but its Sunday, so many closed) where I'm aware we dont neccesarily can shoot inside malls, so I keep my camera inside bag, where I saw a lot of people carrying DSLRS on the neck lol.
So ya street photography still lives!
I’m glad they are getting rid of those touts. They are absolute pests. The last time I was back home in Malaysia and wandering around the KLCC doing my street photography, these pests are harassing everyone, including photographers that have better gear than them. Glad the government is clamping down on this.
I am not even surprised why street photographers get the short end of the stick when these kinds of issues arise. We even still argue about what photography is even among ourselves. No wonder the media ran with it so easily 😅
yes. thank you! if you see me on the street with my camera. i can give you the photo for FREE. 😆
thanks!!
Thank you Robin .
This is very important, same in so many countries.
Clicked immediately. Now relieved. Thanks Robin! Greetings from a fellow photographer who wants to move to Malaysia and wouldn´t do it if it really would be illegal now…
I think it's important for people to realize that especially when they travel to foreign countries, the laws may not be the same as their home country. For example, in the US, for the most part, street photography is legal, although there are some gray areas that could get you in trouble, such as photographing on private property, or invading someone's privacy (including shooting through store or restaurant windows from the outside). But for the most part, photos taken from a public location (ex. on a public street) are fair game. However this does not apply in all countries (perhaps such as N. Korea or Russia for example).
Thank you 🙂
Why this guy is not an OM Ambassador just puzzles me, he loves the M43 system and OM /Olympus gear, great m43 product reviews, excellent photo shooting tips, techniques. Thanks for making such great content and I hope you continue using M43 system and making content for years to come. Keep up the good work, I salute you!